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Really extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't make clear ... my poor In respond to spitfirebill: I included that factor since when I needed to discover a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go via each in every junkyard in South Jersey to find one that wasn't sludged up really terribly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're mosting likely to speak about a couple of concerns of these vans, however I I'm clearly not mosting likely to come out and claim one is far better than the other. If that's what you're looking for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are a few of the distinctions between these two brands? Bernie: Well, they're basically the same vehicle.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines after that. Let's chat about engine and actually just to define that the model years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I indicate, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a variation of a Chevy van has been around given that, you know, around that time too. We're not going to obtain back into, right into the earlier stuff. Given that 2000, I mean, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more popular and I would not truly recommend a V6 engine.
There's a lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with impact to these engines, since they really did not have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which triggered troubles.
If you're purchasing anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug issues. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will leakage, they'll develop coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold typically you need to change the entire thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, since I'm talking concerning issues, it's an extra advanced engine. Overhead cam, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is an easier layout with press poles.
They're just really respectable, sturdy, solid engines. You recognize, being a van, certainly, you recognize, doing any type of solution on them is a lot more difficult due to the fact that you have actually reached remove that cover and enter into servicing in weird ways. Points like trigger plugs last a terrible long time, so they don't need to be changed really often.
Mark: Can you get these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like way back before the 2000 model year.
You understand, that's still available. I would not recommend a diesel unless you're carrying exceptionally hefty loads. Diesels need to be functioned. That's really the lower line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm just going to claim a plumbing technician and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would be a truly good use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it feels like the diesels are, they appear to have much less troubles in vans than they carry out in the trucks. Most likely because they aren't functioned so hard, however when things take place, they're actually costly to deal with. We have actually obtained a whole lot of video clips and info regarding diesels, specifically the Fords.
You actually require to think twice about obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will certainly state, Chevy is rather a lot limited to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once again, we're simply speaking regarding kind of a right, normal cargo van here. Look at your function, your usage, exactly how much weight you're transporting and that'll assist you make the decision.
Something that we have not spoken about below is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what design, they're offered ever before from half load to one bunch chassis and actually a few of the exploded view vans are really a lot more durable, like, you know, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Yet usually the drive trains, you know, I discover them to be virtually equivalent. Mark: So allow's chat about steering and suspension. Exactly how do they compare? Bernie: You understand, I'm going to give the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's much less guiding affiliation involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it appears, and the Chevy's probably last a little longer than the Fords, however the, you understand, the steering affiliation is a lot less complicated, so there's much less parts and much less products to use out.
The trip in a Ford is most likely a little bit a lot more vehicle like however I don't understand if you 'd in fact ever really saw a distinction between the two. It feels like their elements are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the exact same, however I will state that it feels like with Fords, the means they construct their brake calipers, that they often tend to require to be replaced almost each time you do a brake job.
For some factor, they appear to last for one brake task. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper needs to be changed. I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had really poor doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you understand, truly severely developed. As an issue of reality, I would certainly say that if you are also taking a look at something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans really and their vehicles generally actually took a leap forward in high quality around the 2000 version year, because there was a lot of stuff where the brakes for example would certainly not last long whatsoever.
Yet if we're checking out the 2000 newer, I imply, I would certainly claim they're both most likely virtually equivalent in top quality, fit and finish, you understand, a few of the guest vans, of program we'll have better visits than the freight vans. I can not claim that one of them stands out to me a little bit even more than the other.
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